....either that or his "advisor/puppeteers" are pulling his strings,all PR(PRopoganda naturally/obviously),sleight of hand,kee3p them watching the left hand while the right pulls of the trick,politics-magic...its all the same,smoke and mirrors.But all this bullshit about the UK finally leaving Iraq THIS WEEK ON uk tv all week was a joke,as if it was some 'victory' withdrawal like when we gave/sold hong kong back to the chinese,all colonial empire shite!My youngest bro today decided no longer to be a firemand and instead to join the army,i told him he dont have to be on the front line in war to do that but he wants the adventure so i can imagine him trying to join the royal marines,their our best guys apart from our special 8 man op teams like SAS and SBS,etc... Im happy for him,in fact just to get back into the outdoors and back to myself again after a breakup thats kinda fucked up,i have enrolled in the territorial army and can be called upon to say helmand or wherever the fuck,i can either do a crash course but intense but cant cos of my boy living with me so im doing 7 weekends training here in the moors,cliffs and mountains of scotland,i do all shit i love,absailing,mountain climbing,sleeping rough,assault courses outdorrs,etc....oh yeah and of course they train me how to take apart and put together again and maintain and M16 fully automatic,i get to "go to the range" ,i liked that bit:icon_biggrin: II ain6t doing it to go to war no place soon,but the pay and pension is a good add on if i ever needed it and im gonna have fun,if i get called to war,so be it although if i dont agree id leave but least id see whats going on on the ground for REAL!So my bro is joining up full time,greenberets i reckon,best of thee best in the UK,i wish him well,just hope he dont ever come home draped in a union jack(it should be a scotland flag:angry7,cest la vie... BACK ON TOPIC>>>>>>>>> Obama has been cosying up to a lot of interesting 'bedfelllows' recently and now hes sacked his top general in afghanistan where the UK and USA did have totally locked down but shits about to hit the proverbial.... the whole border region between pakistan is now in taliban control,if thhey take pakistan with its nuke bombs,what they gonna do AFGHAN...SHARE A BORDER WITH IRAN AND OTHERS WE AINT FELLIN AS YOU GUYS SAY:eusa_doh: This is just gonna end up a modern day quagmire of a war like korea/vietnam except worse.I said some time ago before obama became pres i didnt agree with his 'pull out' stratedgy and it loooks like its not just me,he or they are seemingly about to 'make change',this could get very interesting,stay tunedfftheair: By PAULINE JELINEK and ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writers Pauline Jelinek And Anne Gearan, Associated Press Writers – 5 mins ago WASHINGTON – Defense Secretary Robert Gates fired the commander of the Afghanistan war Monday, saying the Obama administration needed "fresh thinking" to turn around the war against a resurgent Taliban. Gen. David McKiernan was replaced after less than a year in the job. The new commander will be Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, also an Army officer but with experience as a leader of special forces. McKiernan has a more conventional background. "Today we have a new policy set by our new president. We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador. I believe that new military leadership also is needed," Gates said at a news conference. McKiernan issued a short statement saying his time in Afghanistan made him proud to be an American soldier. "All of us, in any future capacity, must remain committed to the great people of Afghanistan," he said. McKiernan's exit comes as more than 21,000 additional U.S. forces begin to arrive in Afghanistan, dispatched by Obama to confront the Taliban more forcefully this spring and summer. Despite seven years of effort by the U.S. and allies, Afghanistan remains a battleground with an unstable government, flourishing opium trade and suicide attacks by supporters of al-Qaida. Monday's announcement came a week after Afghan civilians were killed during a battle between militants and U.S. forces. Afghan officials say up to 147 people may have died in the battle in Farah, though the U.S. says that number is exaggerated. The U.S. on Saturday blamed Taliban militants for causing the deaths by using villagers as human shields in hopes they would be killed. A preliminary U.S. report did not say how many people died in the battle. Gates said McChrystal, now a senior administrator with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, would be nominated for the top job in Afghanistan and that Lt. Gen. David M. Rodriguez would become McChrystal's deputy. The defense secretary urged the Senate to confirm the two quickly.Obama approved 17,000 additional combat forces for Afghanistan this year, plus 4,000 trainers and other noncombat troops. By year's end, the United States will have more than 68,000 troops in the sprawling country — about double the total at the end of George W. Bush's presidency but still far fewer than the 130,000 still in Iraq.(ALL UKtroops have deployed from Iraq in Basra to Helmand province in Afghanistan!) McKiernan and other U.S. commanders have said resources they need in Afghanistan are tied up in Iraq. Asked if McKiernan's resignation ends his military career, Gates said, "Probably." Gates visited Afghanistan last week to see firsthand what preparations and plans were under way to set the president's counterinsurgency strategy in motion. "As I have said many times before, very few of these problems can be solved by military means alone," Gates said Monday. "And yet, from the military perspective, we can and must do better." He indicated that the Afghan campaign had long lacked the people and money needed in favor of the Bush administration's focus since 2003 on the Iraq war. "But I believe, resources or no, that our mission there requires new thinking and new approaches from our military leaders," Gates said. In June 2006 McChrystal was congratulated by then-President Bush for his role in the operation that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq. As head of the special operations command, his forces included the Army's clandestine counterterrorism unit, Delta Force. McChrystal came under fire for his role in the furor surrounding the friendly fire shooting of Army Ranger Pat Tillman — a former NFL star — in Afghanistan. An investigation at the time found that he was "accountable for the inaccurate and misleading assertions" contained in papers recommending that Tillman get a Silver Star award. McChrystal acknowledged he had suspected several days before approving the Silver Star citation that Tillman may have died from friendly fire rather than enemy bullets. He sent a memo to military leaders warning them of that, even as they were approving Tillman's Silver Star. He told investigators that he still believed Tillman deserved the award. The Army overruled a Pentagon recommendation that McChrystal be held accountable:icon_sigh::icon_rolleyes: Anyone else think Obamas 'moving the goal posts and ''changing tact and his pre election pledges here'I know a lot of y'all think this aint news...but this IS news.Peace:redbong:
hews defo asserting his power,but i thought he was skywalker and bush was vader??? This thread got 20 odd views,fair eniough it wasnt major topical debate but that kinda changes now...ehm.. i mean i know one of the 1st things obama did was to order g-bay in cuba shut:eusa_clap: and then peeps started saying if he got elected he would roll over and take it in the ass and all this bs...but ya know what i dont thjink obamma is a liberal or socialist as ppl think,sure he ordered G bay shut but still not done,sure hes been kissing ass to estern enemies and shit but check this out coming from the man who wanted and promised he would deliver CHANGE for the masses of sheeple who voted him in,i liked him better than mc caine but at least ya knew mc cqaine and palin were gonna drop nukes and wreck the world,no hidden agenda,lmao! But is obama a true liberal,read this and come to your own conclusion,hes using dubya tacticsPeace:jj:
